Islam: A Non-Muslim's Perspective

Budha Baba · gulshancollege.tk

Islam: A Non-Muslim's Perspective

Asadbhai · TSAian

hey omer stop such people

TUM NAY JO BAAT KI HAY NA BHUDAY IS KA MIN TUM KO MANTIQI JAWAB DAYTA AGAR TUM MERAY SAMNAY HOTAY SARI BATAIN EXAMPLE DAY KER SAMJHATA KUIN KAY YAHAN PER ITNI LAMBI POST KERNI HOGI KAY KOI SICH BHI NAHIN SAKTA KUIN KAY TUMHARA UPER CHAMBER USU TERHA KHALI HAY JIS TERHA........................

ABB MEIN KIA KEHOON TUMKO AUR TUMHARAY RELIGON KO

LAKIN TUM ZARA SAMNAY HOO TO SAB TAFSEEL SAY SAMJAH DOON GA

omerkhan · i like FCUK

quote:
Originally posted by: Budha Baba
"Dear Children! These are not my ideas. I respect every religion. But I will like to tell you what other world says about Islam. 1. Most of the terrorists come from Islam. They attack on WTC and kill thousands of innocent civilians while they think that for this evil act they will go to Jannat where they will have 70 virgin hoors to screw up. 2. Muslim men want their women to wear long tent like dresses called Burqas. They have no control on themselves and when they see a lady going in bazar wearing a jean, they start thinking nasty things about her. As they have no control on their evil ideas, they have found their solution on snubbing the rights of their women. They consider women as their commodities. 3. They are generally hypocrites. They have double standards in their life: one for themselves and other for the whole world. For example, ethy preacxh honesty but they are the most dishonest people on the earth. They preach peace but find war in suicide bomb attacks. Poor Muslims indeed. Tum sun Ka pyara Khabti Uncle, Budha Baba"

mein tujhe se ek sawal pooochta hon ...

zameen ki mitti aur pani mila kar khechar banakar bhagwan bantay hain.. jub salay tou khudh usay banata hai tou woh tujhe kaisay banay ga..? hain dhkhan jawab de>?!

aur haan theilay per radi k bhaoo bik rahay hotay hain teray bhagwan .. india gaya tha tou dekh kar bari hasi aye k jo shaq wahan parhta nahi woh bhagwan bana shuru kar deta hai...

ek aur sawal likha aur edit kardiya .. shukar mana larkiyun ki waja se nahi likha warna yeh likha tha k salay saath pooshtay sharam k maray dunya mein aanay se mana kardiay tien

-- Edited by omerkhan at 14:02, 2004-08-20

Budha Baba · gulshancollege.tk

Did anybody of you tried to answer any of the three points I raised ?

Asad Bhai just did the same thing of attacking my personality. Not a single word of logic. You are disappointing me.

And Omer had used the counter attack policy. Although it is a bit better than being total out of topic or making personal insults. So, I will love to reply to Omer.

I agree with you that Bhagwan (made of mud and sold for each "Bara aanay") can't do anything. But infact hindus don't pray in front of that Bhagwan. That Bhagwan is just a symbolical Bhagwan to make up the concentration. Original thing being worshipped is the virtyal Greatest and the most Powerful which is not seenable. Christians call it God, Muslims call it Allah and Hindus call it Bhagwan.
It is just like the same way, you have picture of Khana kaba on praying mats (Jaaye Namaz). Should I consider that you are worshipping to the picrorial Khana Kaaba. Also, Why all the muslim pray by looking at Khana Kaaba. Are the worshipping a cubical building ?

Infact, every rerligion is full of absurdities. Hinduism being the oldest one in the world has more than others. One needs to come out of the sphere of influence of his religion to see at the stupidities found in his religion.

Tum Sub Ka Pyara,
Khabti Budha Baba

Note: I hate attacking the religion. That's why I will not discuss polygamy, marriage of Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) with Hazrat Aisha (RA) when Aisha (RA) was only 8, 12/13 marriages of Prophet, Khiraj And Jihad theory when a muslim states sends a letter to neighbouring state asking them to give them the money or be prepared for war (A form of Gunda tax), and many more thing.*

PS: I hope moderators will not try to ban anything because they ideoligically are against it. And if making insults is against the law, they will noturge AsadBhai to do whatever he wants to contrary to their own moderation policy (and omerkhan did it).

-- Edited by Budha Baba at 15:48, 2004-08-20

Aquarius · Junior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: omerkhan
" mein tujhe se ek sawal pooochta hon ... zameen ki mitti aur pani mila kar khechar banakar bhagwan bantay hain.. jub salay tou khudh usay banata hai tou woh tujhe kaisay banay ga..? hain dhkhan jawab de>?! aur haan theilay per radi k bhaoo bik rahay hotay hain teray bhagwan .. india gaya tha tou dekh kar bari hasi aye k jo shaq wahan parhta nahi woh bhagwan bana shuru kar deta hai... ek aur sawal likha aur edit kardiya .. shukar mana larkiyun ki waja se nahi likha warna yeh likha tha k salay saath pooshtay sharam k maray dunya mein aanay se mana kardiay tien-- Edited by omerkhan at 14:02, 2004-08-20"

hey good comments omer .........

tweeety · Junior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: Budha Baba
"Dear Children! These are not my ideas. I respect every religion. But I will like to tell you what other world says about Islam. 1. Most of the terrorists come from Islam. They attack on WTC and kill thousands of innocent civilians while they think that for this evil act they will go to Jannat where they will have 70 virgin hoors to screw up. 2. Muslim men want their women to wear long tent like dresses called Burqas. They have no control on themselves and when they see a lady going in bazar wearing a jean, they start thinking nasty things about her. As they have no control on their evil ideas, they have found their solution on snubbing the rights of their women. They consider women as their commodities. 3. They are generally hypocrites. They have double standards in their life: one for themselves and other for the whole world. For example, ethy preacxh honesty but they are the most dishonest people on the earth. They preach peace but find war in suicide bomb attacks. Poor Muslims indeed. Tum sun Ka pyara Khabti Uncle, Budha Baba"

well n wat abt those innocent muslims who r just killed 4 nothing in iraq afghanistan just 4 whims of american leaders

mikee · ChakhaY ka FUNda!

hey tweety i 'd suggest pls cool down ..............ap kuch ziada hi hyper ho rahi hein .....BABAJi t ohein hi sankay hua

Budha Baba · gulshancollege.tk

quote:
Originally posted by: tweeety
"well n wat abt those innocent muslims who r just killed 4 nothing in iraq afghanistan just 4 whims of american leaders"

In Iraq, it is not the war of religion. It is the war of Oil. Whole world condemned it. Role of US is being criticized everywhere. And even US has quit its administration a long before they had actually planned.

Do you remember when war on Iraq was just going to start, there were the largest menifestations of the history in London, Paris, Madrid and new York. Peace lovers from all over the world condemned the american atrcities and showed that they don't want american invasion. It simple shows that there are a lot of peoople in the world who think on the level of humanity instead of on the level of religious differences.
How many people in Pakistan protested against it. I read the newspapers and they were not more than 5000. In Paris, they were 1.2 million, tin London 1.5 million, In spain .8 million. Compare the consciousness of these people for sad incidents happening with the people of Pakistan and India.

Fight in Afghanistan was to eliminate Taliban regime. It is a well known fact that Taliban were supported by US during 80s with the help of Pakistan. There is no place for stupid ideas of Taliban who did nothing better even for their own people.

Anum · 8:14 AM, 08/20/04

Tum sun Ka pyara Khabti Uncle,
Budha Baba <<<<<<<<< pyaara bhi hai,khabti bhi hai aur baba bhi ...strange!!!

apnai religion ko shayad sab sai acha samjhtay ho ...... 5 years pehlai i wuz dying fan of rani mukharjee (bollywood actor) ...i met her jus cuz of ma uncle hes in bolywood ..mai us kai ghar gaye and u cant belive itni gandiiiiiiii blukhhhh jagah jagah pathar kai models rakhai thai so called BHAGWANS! us kai ghar ...khana khanai aye tou widout washin hands pata nahe kahan kahan sai uth kar aye thi ganday hathon sai, paani pe rahi thi tou kharay ho ker aur i guess 100 sanson main, itnii smell thi kisi temple kai agarbati ki ....akkkhhhh ..itni bari disgusting red colour ki bindya laga kar ..us model kai agai 5 dafa sajday karkai ghar sai nikli ... aik budha aadmi aya us kai ghar pehlai tou mai samjhi fakeer hai hardly 2 he kapray hongai body pai .phir pata chala pandit hai rani jee ki dad nai bheja hai bhajan wajan karnai ... jab tum logon kai actors ka jin ko tum log "mahaan" boltay ho un ki poja kartay ho yeh haal hai tou normal hindus kitnai gandai hongai ...cow tak ko tou mother bana diya hahahah bechari road bhi crosss karrahi thi tou traffic jam hogaya kai " mama agyein" hahahahaha! aik woh mandaron mai horrible model so called "kaali maata" kai achay khasa normal insaan us say dar jayein ...temples ki bells baja baja kar inform kartay ho kai hum bhi mandar mai hain haha..itni bari bari trays fruits ki bhar kai models kai samnai rakhtay ho lekin yeh nahe pata khayengai kahan sai ..shayad woh 2 kapron kai fakeer so called "pandit" wohi kha letay hongai ..hahah ....

acha tarah say jal tou gaye hongai aap budhay baba?! see ya later ...

Budha Baba · gulshancollege.tk

Anum Bitya! I never said that my religion is the best. I just said that all religions are equal.

Off Topic:

So, you met Rani Muker Ji. Wow! That's Great. I know Pakistani younsters are Die Hard fans of Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Aishwariya Roy, Rani Muker Ji, Sanjay Dutt , Amitabh Bachan, Kajol etc. They also like Brad Pitt, Salma hayak, katherine Zeta Jones etc.

Piyaray bacho Tell me, Do you like Nargis, Resham and reema as well ?

mikee · ChakhaY ka FUNda!

quote:
Originally posted by: Budha Baba
"Anum Bitya! I never said that my religion is the best. I just said that all religions are equal. Off Topic: So, you met Rani Muker Ji. Wow! That's Great. I know Pakistani younsters are Die Hard fans of Shahrukh Khan, Salman Khan, Aishwariya Roy, Rani Muker Ji, Sanjay Dutt , Amitabh Bachan, Kajol etc. They also like Brad Pitt, Salma hayak, katherine Zeta Jones etc. Piyaray bacho Tell me, Do you like Nargis, Resham and reema as well ? "

waisay babji tumhari choice to achi hai ... per babji sudhar jao ..

think tank · FASTian

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sub say pelay yeh sawal

1)Aik jaga tum keh rahay ho that u respect every religion & on the other hand u r posting this m@#$#$ s h i t what the HELL IS THIS??

2)the thing u said about that evil ideas & all that chicken s h i t ! i would like to ask keh KAHIN WOH TUM HI TOH NAHIN HO??

-- Edited by think tank at 15:12, 2004-08-21

Malang · gulshancollege.tk

Hello Everybody !

I am very new member here and only joined this forum coz i saw you people fighting.Discussion forum is meant to discuss not to fight.So calm dn people and say me a welcome atleast.

All of you are adopting false way to discussion.If someone has contrary ideas you must criticise his ideas not his personality.Give logical answers to Baba Ji.May be he is comvinced.

baba ji i am here to give all answers to you and i am sure i will give you all the answers living in limits.As you are an aged person so i respect you and hope other members will also respect you as personality should not be hatedd but only his/her ideas.

So baba ji ! you agree with every religion then why are you criticising islam, if these kidds hate hindus or other religions you are also irritating them.Waiting for your answer

By the way it looks veryfunny That under your nick "Bhudda Baba" there is written "newly born baby".

A spokemen from children

Malang

-- Edited by Malang at 22:59, 2004-08-21

Aquarius · Junior Member

quote:
Originally posted by: Malang
"Hello Everybody ! I am very new member here and only joined this forum coz i saw you people fighting.Discussion forum is meant to discuss not to fight.So calm dn people and say me a welcome atleast. All of you are adopting false way to discussion.If someone has contrary ideas you must criticise his ideas not his personality.Give logical answers to Baba Ji.May be he is comvinced. baba ji i am here to give all answers to you and i am sure i will give you all the answers living in limits.As you are an aged person so i respect you and hope other members will also respect you as personality should not be hatedd but only his/her ideas. So baba ji ! you agree with every religion then why are you criticising islam, if these kidds hate hindus or other religions you are also irritating them.Waiting for your answer By the way it looks veryfunny That under your nick "Bhudda Baba" there is written "newly born baby". A spokemen from children Malang-- Edited by Malang at 22:59, 2004-08-21"

is forum ko akhir ho kia gaya hia ..... itna islamic koyun hota jaraha hia yeh forum..

kabhi bhagwan jee aate hia yahan tu kabhi aaj malang ji agaye ....

wese malang jee tum mujhe buddha baba lag rahe hon .... naam change kar kay agaye hon ...

Budha Baba · gulshancollege.tk

quote:
Originally posted by: Aquarius
"wese malang jee tum mujhe buddha baba lag rahe hon .... naam change kar kay agaye hon ..."

Nahin Baita! I am a law obeying citizen and law of the forum is that one can't have two nicks. I never play a foul game. Why don't you believe it.

Malang Ji! Welcome here, Ram tumhara Bhala k'ray. Yaar Malang! Read my above post and see if I used any word against Islam. I used all my language against Muslims not against Islam. And In my opinion, there is no problem with Islam but with the muslims who follow it wrongly. All my three main points were against Today's muslims not Islam.

Tumahara Pyara Khabti Chacha,
Bhagwan Daas

Malang · gulshancollege.tk

wese malang jee tum mujhe buddha baba lag rahe hon .... naam change kar kay agaye hon ...

Aquarius ! YAAR HUDD HEE HO GAEE !!! Hawa main teer chalaaney se kya faaeda howa?

ab to main baba jee ke favour bhee naheen ker sakta keh aap log phir mujh per shakk kero gay.waysey moderators !! can u trace my IP and Bhuddda Baba's Ip and tell the truth to Aquarius???

Baba Ji !!! tell me one thing ? Are you a hindu !!! Dont take it in offensive means.i am just asking as you just talk about muslims and hindus.Dont you think that christains are also good as well as jews? I love the people who dont hate any religion but i dont know why i feel that you are an extremist Hindu who always talks against muslims.Allah karey mera khayaal ghalat ho !!!

You asked that where you talked against Islam !!! You very first post in this thread is against Muslims !!! is not it against Islam !!!???

Bobby143 · TuthlaaH!

quote:
Originally posted by: Budha Baba
"Did anybody of you tried to answer any of the three points I raised ? Asad Bhai just did the same thing of attacking my personality. Not a single word of logic. You are disappointing me. And Omer had used the counter attack policy. Although it is a bit better than being total out of topic or making personal insults. So, I will love to reply to Omer. I agree with you that Bhagwan (made of mud and sold for each "Bara aanay") can't do anything. But infact hindus don't pray in front of that Bhagwan. That Bhagwan is just a symbolical Bhagwan to make up the concentration. Original thing being worshipped is the virtyal Greatest and the most Powerful which is not seenable. Christians call it God, Muslims call it Allah and Hindus call it Bhagwan. It is just like the same way, you have picture of Khana kaba on praying mats (Jaaye Namaz). Should I consider that you are worshipping to the picrorial Khana Kaaba. Also, Why all the muslim pray by looking at Khana Kaaba. Are the worshipping a cubical building ? Infact, every rerligion is full of absurdities. Hinduism being the oldest one in the world has more than others. One needs to come out of the sphere of influence of his religion to see at the stupidities found in his religion. Tum Sub Ka Pyara, Khabti Budha Baba Note: I hate attacking the religion. That's why I will not discuss polygamy, marriage of Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) with Hazrat Aisha (RA) when Aisha (RA) was only 8, 12/13 marriages of Prophet, Khiraj And Jihad theory when a muslim states sends a letter to neighbouring state asking them to give them the money or be prepared for war (A form of Gunda tax), and many more thing.* PS: I hope moderators will not try to ban anything because they ideoligically are against it. And if making insults is against the law, they will noturge AsadBhai to do whatever he wants to contrary to their own moderation policy (and omerkhan did it). -- Edited by Budha Baba at 15:48, 2004-08-20"

how dare u raised ur bloody finger on our prophet...............we will cut dat off...............mind it...........................

n now tell u de truth..................u bloody rascal..................................

MUhammad (SAW) did married 2 Hazrat Ayesha......................n dat wz on de wish of Hazrat Abu Bakar(her father)..................probably 2 hav a relation..................

n get 1 thing more....................MUhammad (SAW) had children with only hz 2 wives........

HAzrat Khadjia (RTA).............n Hazrat Maria(RZA)

n de rest of de marriages................wer mostly all 2 help women in need...............n all behind one prospective...............

n now ur Question on TAX.....................

we r not sick bastards like u ppl.........................dat buy a state n hold grip on it...........no matter how much trouble it causes 2 its ppl.......................(yes...........i mean KASHMIR)..........

wher THERE r u ppl who play with lives of our men.................n dignity of our women.........

whenever MUSLIMS hold charge of ne place..................WITH OBJECTIVE ONLY 2 RAISE FLAGS OF ISLAM......................they give 2 options 2 de residents.................either 2 convert into ISLAM...............or pay TAX...............bcoz a/c 2 customs of those dayz................rulers r de saviours of de nationz.................if muslims r ruling a place they shud be paid 4 it.............bcoz they r serving some1 other than their nation....................n just dont **** anyingoff ur thoat...................unless n until u dont know ne thing...........MUSLIM rulers didnt even took a single penny other than dis TAX.............which wz there DUE RIGHT..............!

YOUR 1ST COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC SHUD BE ANSWERED IN DETAIL............BCOZ IT Z DAT WHT DE WESTERN MEDIA Z SPREADIN ABT US MUSLIMS...................BUT POST ON OUR PROPHET WZ TOTALLYU UNBEARABLE......................MIND IT..............U LL GET HANGED ON THIS .............IN THE STATE OF PAKISTAN................

WHT IF I SAY...............WHT DE HELL WZ RAM DOIN WHEN RAWAN TOOK SEETA OFF WITH HIM....................N NO1 ONE KNOWZ WHT HE DID 2 HIM..............

NOW SHUT UP...............get de hell out of her.............better say **** of.................n dont even dare 2 raise finger on OUR Prophet or 2 ppl related 2 him.......................

REMEMBER R MUSLIMS...............IF WE STAND JUST ONCE NA....................WE LL CUT DE WORLD OFF.......................

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A PROUD MUSLIM!

Budha Baba · gulshancollege.tk

OK! I don't plan to hurt you more. So, I just wanted to make you clarify the thing. Is Sahih Bokhari an authenticated book of Islam? If so, what about following link. I remember somebody saying that Hindus drink Cow urine, here is an Islamic Fatwa urging muslims to drink Camel Urine. This is a Hadith from Sahih Bokhari.

http://www.islam-online.net/livefatwa/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=6m8ils

Question: As-Salamu 'Alaykum. Does Islam encourage or permit the drinking of camel urine?

Answer: In The Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

According to a Hadith that is narrated in Al-Bukhari the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, told Muslims to go out behind camels and drink their urine in treatment of illness.

Accordingly, Islam permits Muslims to drink camels' urine and milk in treatment.

Have anybody of you ever drink Camel cola ?

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Bobby! What if America captures Iraq or says them to give them the money/Oil otherwise. Is it legal?

What if India Says we will atack Pakistan otherwise Pakistan should give them money every monh. Isn't it rediculous.